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popik 27-07-06 22:23

SMS איך זה עובד?
 
שלום.
קודם כל אני חייב לצין שלא מצאתי פורום מתאים יותר לאשכול זה.

אז נתחיל.
איך פועל SMS ?
אם אני רוצה לבנות מערכת שתשלח SMS זה אפשרי? אני יכול לעשות זאת לבד? או שעלי להיות בהסכם אם חברה פאלפון?

מה צריך בשביל לשלוח SMS דרך איכן זה עובר ?
מקווה שהבנתם את הנקודה שאני מננסה להגיע ולשאול.

WebProject 27-07-06 23:14

לפי מה שהבנתי אתה אמור לקנות שרת התומך בפונקציות מיוחדות, השאר בא בקלות.

Alm 28-07-06 14:00

יש שרתי SMS שמקושרים לחברות הסלולר הגדולות...
אתה לא יכול לעשות את זה כי זה דורש הרבה אישורים והשקעה מאוד גדולה גם של עבודה גם של טכנלוגיה וגם של כסף...

יש חברות שמספקות את זה כמו micro pay
תריץ חיפוש בפורום ואני מאמין שתמצא.

Sagi 28-07-06 14:09

אםם יש שירות כזה ב inforu אני חושב
זה עולה בתשלום כמובן..

telco 30-07-06 18:41

all wrong
 
You CAN do it yourself.

Apart from SMS messages sent mobile-to-mobile (MO - mobile originated) there is also SMS originated from the gateway (MT - Mobile Terminated). This is used mostly by internet websites, tv shows, sms banking etc.

MT SMS' transfer protocol is SMPP and in order to communicate with SMS gateways (SMSC - SMS Centers) you will need an application which supports this protocol.

If you are not sending a large amount of SMS then you could simply use an API script to connect to SMSC's which support HTTP POST. In this case, you would send an SMS message from your asp/php/cgi script in the format:

קוד:

http://SMSC-IP-ADDRESS/script?User=Username&Pass=YourPass&To=97254xxxxxxx&From=CALLERID&Text=Hello%20World!

This would send an sms message to 972xxxxxx with a called id of "CALLERID" and a text of "hello world" ....q
MT Messages support a caller ID of either 11 Alphanumeric charachters or 14 numeric, So your messages could apper to come from "ABC" but people would not be able to reply... (if you set it to a numeric, and you had a way to accept incomming SMS to your gateway or application, then you could receive replies from your users for example to update poll statistics online, voting, etc)


If you are NOT buying your sms from an Israeli company be sure to ask for test credits before you make any purchase, as 99.99% of the providers internationally cannot reach Pelephone/ESC/Mirs even though they claim to. Their prices to Orange/Cellom are usually better than if you purchase locally.


Various helpful links:

Kannel: Open Source WAP and SMS gateway : http://www.kannel.org

Clickatell: one of the worlds largest and most reliable SMS gateways: www.clickatell.com

SMS Forum: a forum where SMS providers and developers discuss: www.smsforum.com

Somewhere on sourceforge there is a project called PlaySMS which i've never gotten to test out but I do recall its features being quite interesting for someone providing sms services.

Otherwise in Israel these gateways have been around for a while:
sms2u.co.il
inforu.co.il
smsender.co.il

Otherwise, search google for "Bulk SMS" and you'll find quite a few.
If you are looking for an SMPP server contact me directly, I can recommend one from past experiance.

|קורץ|

Alm 30-07-06 18:57

אנגלית מעולה יש לך, תודה על המידע.

kodesh 31-07-06 23:54

חחחח

דניאל 01-08-06 00:38

ציטוט:

נכתב במקור על ידי kodesh
חחחח

ס-פ-א-ר,
משום מה אני לא אופתע אם בהודעה ה-30 שלך תכתוב ביקורת על איזושהי חברה.

dvir | point-serv 04-08-06 23:08

ציטוט:

נכתב במקור על ידי telco
You CAN do it yourself.

Apart from SMS messages sent mobile-to-mobile (MO - mobile originated) there is also SMS originated from the gateway (MT - Mobile Terminated). This is used mostly by internet websites, tv shows, sms banking etc.

MT SMS' transfer protocol is SMPP and in order to communicate with SMS gateways (SMSC - SMS Centers) you will need an application which supports this protocol.

If you are not sending a large amount of SMS then you could simply use an API script to connect to SMSC's which support HTTP POST. In this case, you would send an SMS message from your asp/php/cgi script in the format:

קוד:

http://SMSC-IP-ADDRESS/script?User=Username&Pass=YourPass&To=97254xxxxxxx&From=CALLERID&Text=Hello%20World!

This would send an sms message to 972xxxxxx with a called id of "CALLERID" and a text of "hello world" ....q
MT Messages support a caller ID of either 11 Alphanumeric charachters or 14 numeric, So your messages could apper to come from "ABC" but people would not be able to reply... (if you set it to a numeric, and you had a way to accept incomming SMS to your gateway or application, then you could receive replies from your users for example to update poll statistics online, voting, etc)


If you are NOT buying your sms from an Israeli company be sure to ask for test credits before you make any purchase, as 99.99% of the providers internationally cannot reach Pelephone/ESC/Mirs even though they claim to. Their prices to Orange/Cellom are usually better than if you purchase locally.


Various helpful links:

Kannel: Open Source WAP and SMS gateway : http://www.kannel.org

Clickatell: one of the worlds largest and most reliable SMS gateways: www.clickatell.com

SMS Forum: a forum where SMS providers and developers discuss: www.smsforum.com

Somewhere on sourceforge there is a project called PlaySMS which i've never gotten to test out but I do recall its features being quite interesting for someone providing sms services.

Otherwise in Israel these gateways have been around for a while:
sms2u.co.il
inforu.co.il
smsender.co.il

Otherwise, search google for "Bulk SMS" and you'll find quite a few.
If you are looking for an SMPP server contact me directly, I can recommend one from past experiance.

|קורץ|

wtf!?
מישהו יכול להסביר??

telco 05-08-06 13:16

I think its a shame that on such a forum with so many young entrepreneurs, that the only constructive comments are 'nnnnn' and 'wtf' q.

personally if i were a hosting company (which i am not and am not planning on being one) i would look to other 'value added services' to provide my clients. Especially in a market where everyone is selling the same thing (webspace).
For example, a basic package of hosting costs what, $10/mo? add another $5 you get an sms alert each day of how many hits you got to your site today/total.. (i'd pay the extra 5 for such a service)

Just as an example.. 1001 things can be done if you're thinking 'outside the box'

Who knows.. maybe someone will be creative and do something..

meshuga 05-08-06 13:50

ציטוט:

נכתב במקור על ידי telco
I think its a shame that on such a forum with so many young entrepreneurs, that the only constructive comments are 'nnnnn' and 'wtf' q.

personally if i were a hosting company (which i am not and am not planning on being one) i would look to other 'value added services' to provide my clients. Especially in a market where everyone is selling the same thing (webspace).
For example, a basic package of hosting costs what, $10/mo? add another $5 you get an sms alert each day of how many hits you got to your site today/total.. (i'd pay the extra 5 for such a service)

Just as an example.. 1001 things can be done if you're thinking 'outside the box'

Who knows.. maybe someone will be creative and do something..

אהבתי את הרעיון. לצומת לבכם מנהל חברות..תחשבו על זה..זה יכול להיות נחמד.

Dodem 05-08-06 16:12

נחמד לראות איך אנשים מראים פה את האנגלית היפה שלהם.
להכין כזה דבר, כמו שאלמוג כתב, יעלה הרבה כסף.
אך תוכל ללכת לחברות אשר יתנו לך מערכת כזאת, בתשלום יותר קטן.
מאז שהSMS נכנס, הרבה דברים פה ישתנו.

ranweb 09-08-06 16:29

האחוזים גבוהים מאוד...

RS324 10-08-06 20:22

ל telco :
סתם בשביל לדעת, אם הייתי מעוניין להקים שרות כזה בעצמי, מה הייתי צריך לעשות ?
(לדוגמא יש לי שרת ווינדוס, מה הלאה ?)

בנוסף, האם אתה מכיר אתרים שמאפשרים שליחה חינם ? - ולא אני לא מדבר על איסיקיו..

telco 12-08-06 16:59

RS324:

Taking the example I gave, where a person gets an SMS of how many hits they got on their website at the end of each day...

1) 'PHP-Script' is auto-run every day at 8pm

2) 'PHP-Script' parses through the apache/other web server access logs for XYZ's virtual server and gets total amount of hits for that day. (just like Webalizer and other log file programs)

3) script checks to see user has enough credit in their account and then connects to SMS provider through HTTP GET/POST and sends the information

You also need an interface where people can signup/add credit, etc..
but at the end of the day its basic scripts .

About 'free' sms ... I dont think you'll find any place that can provide this to you without a 'catch' ... advertisments, maximum 1-5 sms per day, etc...

it costs them money and someone's gatta pay for it.


anything else, feel free:
Icq: 3099-5875


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